Talk:Sandbox Server

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Question[edit]

Hello I would like to participate in the project but the problem is that i do not know quiet nothing about it. Could somebody explain me if i need some specific abilities to operate in the project??? I want to have a space for the el.wv.--ZaDiak(T)(C)@ 20:26, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I think you don't need to know about it much. It is important to say, it will be a place on the Internet with its domain for Wikiversity participants. So I think you don't need special abilities. One good thing is, that you already speak English, other can come/we can teach you. Well I don't think it is about the spaces for different language versions of Wikiversity, but about the spaces for different participants of Wikiversities. E.g. people, who would like to experiment/study with w:el:Moodle will need just one Moodle. As (I think) you can set up there a different languages, so you don't need more Moodles.
On the other side, developers (= people experimenting with programing software) might need Moodle each other or in groups. So I would say, you might be an ambassador of Greek community as I don't think so all of your participants speak English. So lets think about it within your community and list here some staff, what you would like to do and how many participants it would use it from the Greek site.--Juan de Vojníkov 21:14, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Sorry but my state was not clear enough. I meant that I wanted to have some material for the purpose of the el.wv courses. Anyway it sounds interesting. I will discuss it with some other guys from el.wv and probably we will participate. Thanks for the info!--ZaDiak(T)(C)@ 22:41, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Well, if your material will not be violating licenses and it will be for education/research, than you will be welcome. But anyway, i think we will setup a system for the future, that if someone come and will ask for the space, he/she/it* will get it. (* there are bots with us here:-).--Juan de Vojníkov 23:05, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Who provides server?[edit]

If this sandbox is a serious need for wikiversity, and I believe it is, then we should ask the WMF. Their fundraiser is going well. I believe they can easily afford a decent server for this project. Who to ask? I suggest Tim Starling in the first place. --Bduke 21:05, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, I would ask why it was not agreed last time? But it is probably not a question for you. Hope they are not affraid that we will deploy there a Moodle software. But I agree with you Scenario 1, 2 i.e. the help of WMF or a Chapter is the most important way how to do it.--Juan de Vojníkov 21:14, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

We asked last time, but there are lots of projects and WV was pretty invisible on the radar. We felt if we could demonstrate that is was useful, it might be easier to get funding. en:wv:User:Historybuff 20:43, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Computational chemistry programs[edit]

Let me ask here. Are there some programs free/under Open license? Which programs do you exactly mean?--Juan de Vojníkov 21:28, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

I have used a number of programs earlier when we ran a M Sc taught over the internet, I am very conscious of the fact that if we put these pages on to wikiversity, which is our intention, then we have to use open source programs. I am thinking of the following - A Huckel program that we have used before that I originally wrote a long time ago, so I can release it as open source; a similar program that I wrote for extended Huckel method; the open source MOPAC7; and, for ab initio calculations, PSI3 or perhaps, MPQC, both of which are open source and in fact released in Ubuntu. They would be carefully restricted to only allow small cases that use very little cpu time. This is a project I need to get back to, but I am busy with other stuff right now. I just saw the email about the server, so came to have a look. I'll keep an eye on this discussion. --Bduke 11:12, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

IRC meeting/list discussion[edit]

So there are some ways how SS can be done, so what about to call IRC meeting or start mailinglist disscussion. The problem is, that it seems to me that people are halted and it would be diffucult to organize IRC meeting on the other side, I am not sure, if all people are in the list. Or maybe just me out of free time?--Juan de Vojníkov 22:44, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

strategy wikimedia - Proposal:Integrated educational experience[edit]

Please see Proposal:Integrated educational experience, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 18:03, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Starting the sandbox server[edit]

Hi people,

I'm going to BE BOLD and start this puppy cranking. WM-DE have reaffirmed their support. I had asked about how long they are willing to allow the project to incubate (they won't commit financially beyond 3 months), but I think as long as we show progress and promise, and provide updates, they will be happy.

What I need is an idea of which projects are "shovel ready" right now. Does it make more sense to start hosting now, or wait until after the Xmas break? It's about 2 weeks difference, but if people can use the time effectively then I'll make it happen sooner. Thoughts? User:Historybuff 10:29, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

What is the status?[edit]

see mailing list, ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 16:17, 1 February 2012 (UTC)