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[edit] Opening of the Fi Wikiversity

Congratulations to the Finnish Wikiversity! --mikeu ^talk 04:19, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

• +.<Hillgentleman| ~ | 書> 05:24, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

FI.WV is now open. Crochet.david 18:28, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I asked for the rights of transwiki and is finished "normally" the transfer of missing pages. Tell me if there are missing something, I make my right to the end of the month.Crochet.david 15:47, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] 2009: International Year of Astronomy

The year 2009 has been designated the w:International Year of Astronomy. I have created a coordinating page at en:Topic:International Year of Astronomy for creating astronomy learning projects at en, but would also like to collaborate with editors from the other language wikiversities. Drop me a note if you are interested. --mikeu ^talk 03:56, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

What about to do it simillar like in the case of International Year of Languages?--Juan 07:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

I have started International Year of Astronomy. --mikeu ^talk 13:38, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

There are now stubs for a number of languages, but we need help with translations. Please see Talk:International Year of Astronomy for the list of things that are needed. --mikeu ^talk 06:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I completed the greek translation.--ZaDiak^(T)(C)@ 14:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Policy on Deletions

Please see Wikiversity_talk:Policies regarding the need for an approved published policy on deletions. —Moulton 16:34, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Any further consideration on this item? —Moulton 23:56, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiveristy in Dutch (nl-language)

"Minister Plasterk launched on 3 December 2008 an innovation for education in the Netherlands, with the name Wikiwijs. On Wikiwijs free online educationmaterial is written bij teachers and can be shared with other teachers." -> This seems very much like Wikiversity, maybe some kind of cooperation could be possible? Until so far only nl-Wikibooks has been in the picture as project which can work together with Wikiwijs, but perhaps Wikiversity in Dutch would fit better for the job. In Dutch this projectpage on the chapter-wiki is about it. Maybe anyone here having ideas about this? Greetings - Romaine 00:54, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimania 2009

English: Wikimania 2009, this year's global event devoted to Wikimedia projects around the globe, is accepting submissions for presentations, workshops, panels, posters, open space discussions, and artistic works related to the Wikimedia projects or free content topics in general. The conference will be held from August 26-28 in Buenos Aires, Argentina. For more information, check the official Call for Participation. Cbrown1023 18:35, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Ελληνικά:Η Wikimania 2009, η φετινή παγκόσμια διοργάνωση αφιερωμένη στα εγχειρήματα Wikimedia, κάνει αποδεκτές καταχωρήσεις για παρουσιάσεις, εργαστήρια, πινακίδες, αφίσες, συζητήσεις ανοικτού χώρου, και εικαστικές εργασίες συνδεδεμένες με τα εγχειρήματα Wikimedia ή γενικά θέματα για το ελεύθερο περιεχόμενο. Το συνέδριο θα πραγματοποιηθεί στις 26-28 Αυγούστου στο Μπουένος Άιρες, στην Αργεντινή. Για περισσότερες πληροφορίες, μπορείτε να δείτε την επίσημη Πρόσκληση Συμμετοχής.--ZaDiak^(T)(C)@ 11:29, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

English: Please translate this message into your language. Cbrown1023 18:35, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Custodian

I propose that we give User:Crochet.david the custodian tools. Questions or comments? <Hillgentleman| ~ | 書> 09:16, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

• Support, I think he would be an excellent custodian and that he will help a lot here.--ZaDiak^(T)(C)@ 13:59, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
• Support --Kanjy 19:47, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
• Support --mikeu ^talk 18:50, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
• Support --JWSchmidt 15:05, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
• A week has passed and consensus has been reached. <Hillgentleman| ~ | 書> 11:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] States of Wikiversities

I think that we should place the page States of Wikiversities in the Sidebar. It would help a lot the newcomers and some people who may not know about this page will find it very useful. We could place it there with the name "States". If nobody opposes in this week I will do it but I would like to hear the opinion of some other members. Thanks. --ZaDiak^(T)(C)@ 14:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Good idea. But I am not sure if the single word "States" is self-explanatory enough. <Hillgentleman| ~ | 書> 16:36, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you but I can't think of any other word. Could you find an other word?--ZaDiak^(T)(C)@ 16:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I will place it with the word "States" temporarily until we find a better word.--ZaDiak^(T)(C)@ 12:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

I placed Babel over Recent changes.--ZaDiak^(T)(C)@ 11:17, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

(+) <Hillgentleman| ~ | 書> 21:08, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimania 2009: Scholarships

Wikimania 2009, this year's global event devoted to Wikimedia projects around the globe, is now accepting applications for scholarships to the conference. This year's conference will be handled from August 26-28 in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The scholarship can be used to help offset the costs of travel and registration. For more information, check the official information page. Please remember that the Call for Participation is still open, please submit your papers! Without submissions, Wikimania would not be nearly as fun! - Rjd0060 02:27, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Board of Trustees election

The 2009 elections to the Board of Trustees will be held between July 28th and August 10th 2009. --mikeu ^talk 02:47, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Suomi Wikiopisto (Finnish Wikiversity) launched

Congratulations! <Hillgentleman| ~ | 書> 15:06, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En

Whether the system offered here worked? I have additions. How they can be discussed and confirmed? S.J. 23:54, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I very much doubt that the system can change but if you want to discuss your proposed additions here is the right place.--ZaDiak^(T)(C)@ 02:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

That is described here - never worked? S.J. 05:02, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

It works see for example Wikiversity:Multilingualism/En and Wikiversity:Multilingualism/El they are the same work in different languages. This page is also available in ather language too. By the time if you keep working on Beta I am sure you will understand the system more nut to give you an example the Multilingualism page was first given in English and then Hillgentleman translated it in Chinese, me in Greek, Crochet.david in French and so on.--ZaDiak^(T)(C)@ 06:38, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Probably we have not absolutely understood each other - I speak about the maintenance specified in heading articles. In the beginning - simple idea, in article it is specified: Drawbacks = This system relies on the number of translators and their efficiency.

It is possible to use the autotranslator, and already the native speaker of English will correct not exact transfer. It will allow to spend much language discussions, without people-translators

As I use the autotranslator - whether in the beginning confirm you have understood mine the offer, will correct autotransfer and then let's it discuss more detailed.

Then I still will have offers, but in the beginning we need to adjust procedure of multilingual discussion. S.J. 14:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Some time ago I tried to create a multilingual project at IYA2009 and Talk:International_Year_of_Astronomy. It was a great deal of work trying to set this up and I have not kept up with the changes that have been made recently. You may have also noticed some of my edits such as Category:RU where I have tried to use mediawiki to include translations in the various Category:Pages by language sub-categories. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions on how we might improve multilingual discussions. --mikeu ^talk 16:26, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

The auto-translator translations have not high standards in quality. They may do the work in your case because you do not know english so you use it, understand the meaning and finally you make the changes needed but if we allow it many people will not proofread it and many people will quit translating manually and start translating via auto-translators. This situation will lead to much lower quality of translations.--ZaDiak^(T)(C)@ 19:11, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

• Well give on an example, I have prepared one, in my opinion a reasonable rule: Викиверситет:Правила опросов/En. It is automatically translated into English from Russian. I offered still the second stage: those who can improve quality of auto-transfer - help !? After that let's try discuss the given rule and to accept for Wikiversity. S.J. 22:19, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

• Here! It appears there are the multilingual discussions, for example here the most interesting Wikiversity:Scope of research. I think it in due course it is necessary to continue. That's it I also searched for these examples. They are difficult for finding to the new participant - therefore I at least have allocated similar discussions in the necessary category (but works on improvement more many). S.J. 16:51, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Custodian

SergeyJ asked custodianship for the probation time of the russian language. I propose making a vote for a week and then let a buro decide, so from me:

• Support--ZaDiak^(T)(C)@ 06:40, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
• Support A great work, a good work, all to make a wikiberisty running to the best way.Crochet.david 06:47, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
• Support - the work he did until this time looks like a good work. Good luck.--Juan de Vojníkov 07:47, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

A week has passed so the vote is over.--ZaDiak^(T)(C)@ 12:10, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

• 16:42, 3 September 2009 JWSchmidt changed group membership for User:SergeyJ from (none) to (administrator) ‎ Reason: custodianship discussion at Wikiversity:Babel from 27 August to 3 September. --JWSchmidt 16:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiversity:Candidates for Custodianship

I have made separate page for discussions about inquiry Custodian the rights. So it is more clear and it is accepted in all similar projects S.J. 15:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Administrator versus Custodians

Who can explain why term Custodians, instead of Administrator is used. What in it semantic distinction? S.J. 00:17, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Take a look at this discussion. In the context of education, "administrator" has a particular meaning that is different from "wiki sysyop". Typical jobs for Wikiversity Custodians involve tasks like importing and deleting pages. These tasks are similar to the work of a custodian in a school who might sweep up stray papers that fell to the floor of a school during the day or move some computers from one room to another. --JWSchmidt 14:39, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Translation and Revison

Is there a easy way to see the revision-number for a page? I think it would be a good practise to add the revision of the original document in the comment to any translation, specially for "official" documents like policies. That way any user can easily check that the translation is up to date without proofreading the whole document. Kaj 14:51, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

It is better for making with template application. Can show on an example as it will look? (If I correctly understand, idea good) S.J. 16:03, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, if it's possible a template would really do the trick. It would be great if you could make a template for that purpose or show an example of one. Kaj 16:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I while badly understand idea, can you could describe it more in detail? I then could make it... S.J. 16:28, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok. If I translate Civility/En to Civility/Sv i want to show what version of ‎Civility/En I used to translate, so any other Swedish reader can check if Civility/En have changed sinse then. That way they also only need to compare the versions of Civility/En and translate the changes to Civility/Sv, not recheck the whole document. Hope it makes sense. Kaj 17:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Whether such variant will approach? S.J. 22:35, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

It is translated 09.09.2009.

It is ready? 09.09.2009.

It wasn't really what i had in mind, but thanks anyway. When I have the time I'll make a template to show how i was thinking. Kaj 15:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok. i'll be waiting. S.J. 16:48, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Look at the bottom of Wikiversity:Civility/Sv, I had something like that in mind, but good looking.

On how many I understand {{REVISIONID}} is a number of editings of all pages in the project. Whereas only I will change any page, this will vary id though I not how many have not changed page. It is not necessary. In general it is better to use time corresponding to editing it it is more clear. S.J. 12:11, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I understand that you wish to receive semi-automatism. But over it it is necessary to think. It is necessary to know how to display date of the last editing from history - I do not know as it to make. And you? S.J. 12:18, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Still. To allocate the template it is necessary in the right upper corner. Then the reading can see at once, he reads what version. S.J. 12:37, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

• Do you mean the magicword like {{REVISIONID}}--> 56241? Or you may find it through page history. <Hillgentleman| ~ | 書> 16:28, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

The magicword was the solution on my problem, one of them anyway. Kaj 11:49, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

• If you want to display the last editor and the last editing time, you may use recursive conversion like the template meta:template:last edit. <Hillgentleman| ~ | 書> 16:30, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

{{subst:Last edit|Last edit of page Wikiversity:Babel: 2009-11-1 T 20:56 UTC, by S.J.}}

• In a following example to transfer in the template the first parametre it is impossible. He considers that it is not present. Disturbs span style = "display:none". Can you will understand as it to transfer in the template as parametre. I do not understand.

It is translated {{{1}}}.

S.J. 19:21, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

• A substituted template doesn't work inside a transcluded template. I can modify it for you when I have more time during the weekend. <Hillgentleman| ~ | 書> 19:43, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

• • Well, I will wait. Thanks. S.J. 20:07, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

• • • Sorry for my late reply. Please see template:page history for a simple example, and template talk:page history for its demonstration. Regards, <Hillgentleman| ~ | 書> 17:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

But it absolutely another, instead of that we discussed that!? S.J. 01:07, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiversity:Candidates_for_Botship/En

I have created page for inquiries about the status of a bot and have placed there the inquiry. I ask to consider my inquiry. S.J. 14:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] *cough*

Not to ring my own bell, but there is a nomination for custodianship waiting for votes. Kaj 13:50, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for the reminder. <Hillgentleman| ~ | 書> 15:17, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Delete pages

Alert to custodians: pages created by U7a probably need to be deleted. Maximillion Pegasus 16:09, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

It is already made S.J. 00:55, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Custodian tools for User:Ciprian Dorin Craciun

Ciprian is a long term contributor and he is maintaining a set of courses in Romanian on Wikiversity. He may need the custidial tools from time to time. I suggest that he become a custodian for Romanian. Comments? <Hillgentleman| ~ | 書> 18:57, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

• It needs to be discussed here Wikiversity:Candidates_for_Custodianship/En. And as a matter of fact - I not against. S.J. 01:04, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Copied the nomination and added it to Wikiversity:Candidates_for_Custodianship/En. Kaj 07:19, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Rules of teaching preschool and school age

It is argued that the rules of Wikiversity, school and early childhood education should be stipulated in a special way. For example, paying attention to what subjects can / can not be explained to children. And as other requirements take into account the child's psyche and the level of ability of a given age. S.J. 20:56, 1 November 2009 (UTC)