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Blocked for disrupting the community[edit]

After a long history of disrupting the Wikiversity community you today imposed a ban in the community chat channel with no warning and no discussion. If you agree to stop disrupting Wikiversity I will remove this block. --JWSchmidt 00:00, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

  • For the record, I do not support the use of blocks as a tool of coercion, negotiation, or punishment to resolve policy issues that are best addressed by collegial, congenial, and democratic discussion processes. To my mind, blocks are contra-indicated actions, ineffective at best and counter-productive at worst. They invariably create disruptive social drama ranging to vexagonistic lunatic Dostoevskian psychodrama, which predictably polarizes and sunders the community. —Moulton 10:42, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
  • As described here, my block of SB Johnny is intended to prevent the spread of Wikipedia Disease to this wiki. In 2008, SB Johnny launched a Hostile Takeover of the English Language Wikiversity by imposing unjustified bans in the #wikiversity-en chat channel. SB Johnny and Darklama have now done the same in the #wikiversity chat channel. It would be irresponsible for me to not take sensible precautions aimed at preventing SB Johnny from disrupting this wiki in the way he has disrupted the English Language Wikiversity. --JWSchmidt 13:24, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
  • "Wikipedia Disease" is diagnosed as F.60 Personality Disorders. Blocking and banning are practices associated with some of the traits of Cluster B (F60.2-4). If you do not want to seed "Wikipedia Disease" then it's best not to manifest any of the associated traits of Cluster B. —Moulton 20:10, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
SB Johnny watched Darklama try to justify a ban in this community's chat channel by making reference to a policy from another wiki. I repeatedly asked Darklama and SB Johnny to remove the ban that Darklama imposed without warning, discussion or a valid justification. Imposing such a ban is exactly what SB Johnny did in 2008 when he started the Hostile Takeover of the English Language Wikiversity. Darklama and SB Johnny could have reversed the ban that Darklama imposed, but they did not do so. In 2008, after SB Johnny took over the #wikiversity-en chat channel SB Johnny then took over the English Language Wikiversity. Darklama and SB Johnny have disrupted the Wikiversity community with years full of policy violations, bad blocks, emergency desysopings imposed when there was no emergency and even a bogus "community ban" imposed upon you, Moulton. I acted here to prevent a spread of that pattern of disruption to this wiki. I don't believe that taking a reasonable precaution in an attempt to prevent the spread of a pattern of disruption can "seed Wikipedia Disease". I have the responsibility to use the block tool to control both repeat vandals and misguided sysops who disrupt Wikiversity by repeatedly misusing their tools. I'm even reluctant to block vandals. I've advised SB Johnny to put down his banhammer and participate in a Truth and Reconciliation process that would let Wikiversity return to the peaceful learning community that it once was. Rather than do that, SB Johnny started disrupting #wikiversity exactly as he previously disrupted #wikiversity-en, while ignoring a lack of consensus for his misguided actions. I view it as my responsibility to use the available tools to protect Wikiversity, even when I find use of the block tool to be distasteful. I'd be happy to use alternatives like a vandal wiki, but I'm not going to stop protecting Wikiversity while I wait for such alternatives. --JWSchmidt 01:11, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
John, IRC is not universally seen as part of Wikiversity. And in any case that wouldn't work. Don't forget it was you who gave SBJohnny the custodial tools without discussing with us. I have long kept this quiet site to be a little more mature and more tolerating. What makes us different here is that we don't judge - we only look at their editting history here. Your blocks make little sense, for they prevent nothing. <Hillgentleman| ~ | > 03:30, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

FYI[edit]

For future reference, bear in mind that blocked users cannot edit their talk pages on beta.wv. SB Johnny 17:26, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

The info for requesting a change to this is at: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8001 If anyone is interested we would need to have a local discussion to show support for implementing this. If that happened, I could submit the request at bugzilla on behalf of the community. --mikeu talk 19:51, 17 March 2011 (UTC)