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Wikivesity Indonesia[edit]

Hi, thank you for your information. I'm new in this Beta Wikiversity. Faishal Wafiq Zakiy (talk) 13:49, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]


I see that you are a local administrator. I was wondering if you could check edits of Javi1861985 (Talk | Email | Contribs | SulUtil) and take actions if appropriate? Some of their edits look test/vandalism. Masumrezarock100 (talk) 18:57, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Masumrezarock100. I left him a message. After reviewing his contribution, I will handle. --Sotiale (talk) 09:37, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Great. Thanks for all your help. Masumrezarock100 (talk) 09:48, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed with Main Page in Croatian[edit]

Hello, Sotiale

could you please use ChangeContentModel to change the content model of Glavna stranica/common.css and of Main Page/hr/common.css to Sanitized CSS (in both cases).

It's tested, and works: User:Nesmir Kudilovic/vector.css.

I would also request creation of the following MediaWiki definitions:

Thanks in advance for all your help. Truly yours, -- Nesmir Kudilovič (razgovor) 22:03; četvrtak, 12. marta 2020. (SEV)

Good to see you. Main page of incubator Wikiversity uses main page name of each language, not the form of subpage. May I ask if there is a reason to request a subpage form? --Sotiale (talk) 12:36, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again :-)
I've followed the pattern of Main Page/Top translations. I do not know the ways of Wikiversity Beta, but from what I know about the ways of Incubator, that is a proffered scheme, obviously for those languages which have very, very similar terminology and lexicon (especially if we consider the following: bs, cnr, hr, sh, and sr-Latn, sr-Cyrl).
Since I haven't requested a change for MediaWiki:Mainpage-description/hr, the appearance would not differ for the end-user.
In fact there is only one Main Page which is marked by MediaWiki:Mainpage-nstab, all other are sub-pages marked as MediaWiki:Nstab-main. Also, I have noticed that transcluded pages tend to function better, when and if other languages would follow the Main Page/hr. I hope that it should not pose any problem in having such organization of the Main Page in Croatian (hr), even if it is not connected with the Universal Language Selector. It’s just the proffered form I have chosen. Hope that this clarification meets Beta-WikiU criteria. Thanks again for all the help and for consideration of the requested actions/edits. Kind regards. – Nesmir Kudilovič (razgovor) 15:53; petak, 13. marta 2020. (SEV)
I wanted to know the reason for the request, not that it should not be different from the existing method. This timezone(UTC+9) is late at night, so I will review it again tomorrow. Thank you for your reply :-) --Sotiale (talk) 15:01, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Nesmir Kudilovic: Hello. I have processed your request, please check it out. Please let me know if something is missing. Have a good time, --Sotiale (talk) 08:18, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Sotiale,
if you have the time, could you please add local content to MediaWiki:Sidebar/hr, like in MediaWiki:Sidebar/ru.
It is translated from MediaWiki:Sidebar and intended for local use at Beta-WikiU in: MediaWiki:Sidebar/hr
* navigation
** mainpage|mainpage-description
** portal-url|portal
** forum-url|Forum »Babel«
** category:root|Glavna kategorija
** recentchanges-url|recentchanges
** states-url|Statusi WikiU-a
** helppage|help
** sitesupport-url|sitesupport
Some parts are not translatable at, but some are (like MediaWiki:Mainpage-description; and MediaWiki:Babel which is used for some other purpose generally in MediaWiki).
You can delete MediaWiki:Mw-mainpage-url/hr as redundant.
Thanks again for all your help. Best wishes. -- Nesmir Kudilovič (razgovor) 22:09; subota, 14. marta 2020. (SEV)
Hello, Sotiale,
seems I wasn't well informed about how to implement the translation, if you could help me once more.
You might create MediaWiki:Mainpage-url/hr with the content Main Page/hr and change MediaWiki:Mainpage/hr to Glavna stranica, that could work.
Hope this all ordeal helps someone, at least it did help me. :-)
Thanks again for all the help you supplied. I'm just trying to make it easier for the user to get acquainted with the projects by making the interface more appealing. Your endeavor helped a lot.
With kind regards, -- Nesmir Kudilovič (razgovor) 21:09; nedjelja, 12. travnja 2020. (SEV)
@Nesmir Kudilovič: Please check if it has been processed as you requested. And I hope you stay safe. --Sotiale (talk) 13:19, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikiversity BETA[edit]

Hi. Welcome your contributions here. If you want to know Wikiversity incubator status of your language edition, please see here. When you want to delete a page, I think you already know it, please use {{delete}}. If you have any other questions or need help, please feel free to contact me. I am worried about current corona situation, but I hope you stay safe. --Sotiale (talk) 13:43, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Dear Sotiale, thank you very much for your message. Nowadays I'm trying to conceive the scope and essence of Wikiversity projects. For this very purpose, I'm spending some time on English and German Wikiversities, searching for new aspects how to run Wikiversity on my language efficiently. Since you asked, I may have a question or may need an advice, let's say. Here you'll find a page "Linguistics Department". I want to ask you if it's more efficient in use to have related pages "under" this page? I mean the title / subtitle order just like an index - e.g. "Linguistics" and "Linguistics/Applied linguistics". Or would you advise to create them as individual and independent pages on their own?.. Regards and thank you so much again! Dr. Coal (talk) 14:46, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dr. Coal: Hello. In my case, I did it by writing subpages. The case of creating a new page was done when the topics were completely different, or when there were separate sub-topics enough to make a separate page. But this is a general case and I think you can use other methods if you like. --Sotiale (talk) 15:06, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the quick response again! Regards. Dr. Coal (talk) 15:23, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Hello, I want to give you a dish but unfortunately no wikilove. Can I ask you, What requirements does Vietnamese Wikiversity need in order to open the Vietnamese version? Moreover, Vietnamese students are in the final exam so I have to rush to create many documents for them to refer and review. Le Duc Anh 💬 05:19, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@JohnsonLee01: Hello. Thank you for sending me a message. First, if you are going to be busy, do it slowly. Of course, you can't ignore the number of pages, but viwikiversity in the current incubator stage is not a problem. It is you, the contributors, that are important to open viwikiversity. Your incubating project hasn't been a steady contributor in the past 4 years. As you know, the creation of a separate project means that there are steady contributors and they should be able to manage the wiki themselves. The language committee takes this part seriously. Therefore, your community should show a steady contribution for at least 6 months. If you can do that, I will report it to the Language Committee. --Sotiale (talk) 05:37, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And if I think your community is enough to have a separate project, I will inform you about the preparation process. Logo and other necessary information will be guided in a timely manner. Don't worry, please continue to contribute :D --Sotiale (talk) 05:42, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I can do that, most Vietnamese members are students, if this project will be opened soonest (from 2 -3 months) then this will help Vietnamese students to study better. Moreover, our team is also organizing propaganda to call for their to contribution. Le Duc Anh 💬 05:43, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
With only a few days left for Vietnamese students to finish the school year and summer vacation, more than 1 month will start the new school year, I want to help them while they are rushing to study. Can you help them? They need a reputable learning website. Le Duc Anh 💬 08:50, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That part is not something I can help. The Language Committee values the sustainability of the community. I only report your activities of project, everything is decided by the language committee. Regardless of my opinion, it is impossible to open separate project within just 3 months, according to my experience. This is no exception to any incubating project. Your incubating project can do activities you mentioned here, and by doing so, your community can prove that it does not disappear in the short term. --Sotiale (talk) 09:00, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sotial, Thank you so much, I agree, searched and did not find Wiki languages in: Russian (yes, but did not serve well) Icelandic Japanese Danish Thai Chinese so in any case if im wrong the language in Wiki exists i would be happy to change to the Wiki in stead of the Beta versions, thanks --Saltrabook (talk) 12:47, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

-sysop for User:JohnsonLee01[edit]

Hello, this user had been globally locked for xwiki abuse, doxing. Could you desysop him if that is necessary, I don't think he can be trusted with the tools. Thanks so much. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:40, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Camouflaged Mirage: I just revoke their flag. Thank you for letting me know. --Sotiale (talk) 05:36, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, we have some pages to delete.

We discussed their existence on the Polish Wikiversity and decided to remove them. Could you please help us? Thank you in advance :).

PS Don't delete Portal:Fizyka i Astronomia, we had a little mistake here :(

Greetings! StasiekSkiJumping podysqtujmy! 18:41, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A request to hide an edit[edit]

[1] - Could you please hide this edition? there is a lot of profanity in it, and I don't want others to see it. Regards, Ynnarski (podyskutujmy) 16:55, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Sotiale (talk) 12:40, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Can you give me bot-privilege in 1 week to move all page without any restriction of time between 2 actions. Thanks Mạnh An (Tám) 03:42, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the late reply. How much work do you expect it to be? --Sotiale (talk) 13:19, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Sotiale: (Sorry if I misunderstood your point) I just need this privilege to move pages with with high speed. As I said, I need this privilege for ~1 week. Do you have any question? Mạnh An (Tám) 00:33, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Mạnh An: I understand what you need. so, the question was how many pages you need to move. You can simply answer with numbers. The reason this is necessary is to know how many pages are moved and what the content of the operation is. --Sotiale (talk) 02:03, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Sotiale: Look at this list: here. I will move pages from number #520 --> #524; #526, 527, 529, 530; #535 --> #584 (content: Add preffix Ngữ văn 7/ to all article in these range) Mạnh An (Tám) 02:40, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks. In the end, the workload is thought to be moving around 60 pages, right? If so, it is recommended that you set a day on which you will work. --Sotiale (talk) 03:19, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And please correct your signature. Your signature is automatically categorized. --Sotiale (talk) 04:15, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sotiale: I don't need this permission anymore. Mạnh An (Tám) 09:50, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Catanalysis is in trouble. Can you fix the error? I need it to check the level of activity of my project. Thanks a lot Mạnh An (Tám) 09:48, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to be working fine now. --Sotiale (talk) 10:16, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And I urge you once again to remove the automatic [[Category:VI]] prefix from your signature. This causes the user talk: namespace to be misclassified. --Sotiale (talk) 10:20, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Hello. I really have to tell you this, although I know this proposal won't be easy for you to accept, but I think it's absolutely necessary. As you know, Beta Wikiversity does not use prefixes for article names which has caused difficulties for projects because many projects may need to localize templates for use in their projects and they often name those templates after the name of enwikiversity. This has caused conflicts between projects, or many projects need to use the same article title or category title, but the article and category titles are unique. For example the Wikiversity category (which is essential for each Wiki but is a category for shared Wikiversity), projects with this problem will be in trouble and that makes the development of projects more difficulty. I strongly suggest that you convert all articles in each category like VI or HE to the prefix Wv/vi or Wv/he/(article title) like Wikimedia Incubator. This will resolve the current conflict. I hope that you will review the request carefully and reply to me soon. Thank you 阮孟安 (對話) 13:00, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The reason it's not easy to accept is that the cost is greater than the benefits and there is a problem with reality, not my problem. The incubator system you are talking about is a built-in feature of incubatorwiki. That doesn't apply here, so applying the prefix as per your suggestion will only result in renaming the pages. After all, you have to attach the prefix every time you edit it(it doesn't attach automatically like incubatorwiki), which is no different than using a template with a localized name. Between using the localized template name in each language version or using a template by adding a prefix, this place has chosen the former. Although some basic modules or templates can be shared, they are often the basis for other modules or templates that translations are used on, and those modules can also be translated with any localized name. --Sotiale (talk) 13:45, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vietnamese Wikiversity[edit]

Hello Sotiale, I see that the Vietnamese Wikiversity project has developed very well. Will our project be able to operate independently? If not, what additional conditions do we need? Hope you will reply me soon. 阮孟安 (對話) 09:35, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mạnh An: I personally hope Vietnamese Wikiversity will be created as a separate project to be the 18th Wikiversity. But your project is not meeting the most important condition; Community formation and sustainability. Your project did not show the continued activity of the community from January to July of this year. There wasn't enough activity, and it didn't last. It should be verified that your project has enough active users and that they continue editing; If your project proves to have enough users and continuity of activity, I will be happy to inform the Language Committee of your work and start the process for approval. --Sotiale (talk) 11:52, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]